Charitamoh's Sorrow

Class Date: 1/20/09
Chapter: 3
Page#: 54
Paragraph #: 2nd
Recorded version: http://cid-52d749a4f28f4c05.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/MMP%20class/01-20-09%7C_Chap3%7C_KarmSeDukh%7C319.mp3
Summary:
On Tuesday Jan 20, we contined in topic “Sorrow because of Charitamoh and how to get Nivruti from that”. In that we discuss about NoKasay. We talked about Rati Kasay. If we see Rati Kasay is one type of Lobh. We discussed about Cat and its Aasakti for Milk/Rat. Besides Rati Kasay and Sata Vedani go together. The same way Arati and Asata Vedani go together.

Then we talked about why Aasaki hoti hai -
1. Because we got that thing with difficulty
2. We fear to lose it.
Thus Aasakti is full of sorrow.

So when Arati Kasay happens, means when unlikeable things ka sayong hota hai. When Arati Kasay occurs, we want to remove that things. So there are many things we want to change when we see Arati Kasay. Thus Arati Kasay is also sorrowful.

Then we talked about Sok. So when our dear people or things go away or unlikable things comes, at that time we feel very uneasy. We cry and feel sorrow. In some cases, people suicide. There are many places where we have Sok Kasay for example leaving our native place, not going to work if we don’t like our work. Extreme example is when Dev falsely informed Laskman that Sree Ram died and by listening that only Laskman died. Sok is Dvesh Kasay.

We also talked about Bhay, which is self explanative. We also talked about Sansar Bhay etc… In some instance we talked that people enjoy that Kasay for example watching Horror movie.

Then we talked about Jugupsa, mean Glani hona. Things which we don’t like for example diseased person.

Then we talked about 3 Ved. This is self explanation. We discussed in many literature because of these 3 Ved, we have seen people got mad, different type (10 types) of State and we talked about pain caused by that.

The sequence in which these goes are – 1st NoKasay goes and then Krodh, Maan, Maya and Lobh. In NoKasay also the sequence is Hasya,Rati, Aarti,Sok, Bhay, Jugupsa and then 3 Veds. Lobh goes last. Lobh is root cause of all Kasay. Hence Lobh goes last. So think to ponder how we can reduce or eliminate the Lobh Kasay Or in other term, how we can be Santoshi. So Hindi proverb is “Santoshi Sada Sukhi”. That’s why Lobh is found most of the time. In Human being two senses are most powerful – Touch and Taste.

In conclusion, we talked about different Avastha because of these Kasays. We also discussed Human don’t like Avasatha because of same Kasay continually - For example, if we are enjoying watching movie, which is we are involved in one Kasay, after sometimes we will be bored and we want to change subject – so may be want to go out and do shopping or eat in which we are involved in different Kasay. So we don’t like to stay in same Kasay even for long time.
For NoKasay – 3 Ved Kasay continually exists in all Sanari Jive in implicit or explicit way.

In many cases, kashayo ka dukh itna adhik hota hai ki use bachane ke liye suicide/self-destruction kar leta hai, taki us avastha se bach jaye. That means that Kasay is more painful than death.

Then we also talked about when Jive don’t have any reason to do Kasay, then Jive involves himself in activities like gambling, games , cards etc… to produce Kasay.
So question is what should we do? The answer is – aim to get rid of kasay completely, try to reduce Kasay, live with minimum parigrah such that we can maintain our family.

- Posted by Sanjay Shah